acc to IGI, since he has children in Kärkäs also it seems he is the correct Johan to be married to Maria Huttunen, and since he is the elder son he stops having children earlier than Stafan does. Moreover, Matts Johansson R. who has first child in 1710, in Kärkäs, must be his son.

in 1704- RK, p 89 Kärkkäiskylä

kopiot: Joh. Rossi 59, Kärkälä

in 1704- RK, p 89 Kärkkäiskylä

a Maria Huttuin died in Rossi, age 80, on 18sep1742, thus born 1662