SavonAsukkaat - Person Sheet
SavonAsukkaat - Person Sheet
NameHedvig Weide aka Valborg 
Birth8 Jun 1783, Kylmämäki, Pieks.
Death24 Jun 1857, Warispuro torp., Suovanlahti, Viitasaari Age: 74
FatherMatts Weide (1758-1809)
MotherHedvig Suuronen (1759-1833)
Spouses
Birth28 Dec 1784, Hanhitaipal, Rautal.
Death17 Sep 1858, Warispuro torp., Suovanlahti, Viitasaari Age: 73
FatherAnders Kanninen (1756->1785)
MotherEva Hänninen (1754-1790)
Marriage6 Dec 1805, Hanhitaipal
ChildrenAnna (1812-1899)
Notes for Hedvig Weide aka Valborg
found no record of her birth in Rautalampi 1775 - 1794 on roll 55677. There are NO Veides, male or female, listed as parents in Rautalampi during these years.
The birth record (roll 58066) for Anna has mother as Hedvig Väide......Äinasmäki, father Johan Kanninen with Adam Kanninen and Anna Limalain as godparents?
Marriage record (roll 58066) has her as "Pigan Valborg Vejde", of Hanhitaipal, married Dec. 1805 . Why haven't I seen her in RK for that time...was there a RK for that time.was she recently arrived form Pieksmaki or elsewhere?
ans. Pigan Hedvig Veide, b 1783 is in Hanhitaipal 1, p 75 of 1804- RK. her parents are on the same page, lower.
on p 380, Wesämäki 6, Saristenmäki. in 1822-31 RK, book II, birthdate 13jan1812, adm 1826, married
roll 55677 kopiot for Anna's birth has name as Väide. I searched years 1775 to 1818 in the kopiot looking for births with surnames of this sort. Other than the ONE Väide in 1812, no parents of this name were found in Rautalampi, the closest alternative name in Rautalampi is Vaitin, having children years 1801 to 1812 in Wesamäki, Hindickala, Istumaki, Levaniemi etc.
from someplace i have a death date of 24 Jun 1857 ?suggesting a birth year of 1783.
acc. to IGI, Adam Veide was born Hanhitaipal 1804, he was not found; 58062, LK 1804, shows an Adam moving to Rautalampi By living with a Ingxx. Hedvig Puroin (nearby lives a J Anders Kanninen with son Gabriel b. 1791 and daughter Eva b. 1793)
Johan Weide was born 1792 in Hanhitaipal, he was not found in kopiot. Are some records for Rautalampi found in another parish, e.g. Pieksämäki, as is stated on the description of Pieksämäki kopiot? roll 58062 LK 1814-1823 has a Johan Weide in Hanhitaipal, no. 33, Uusi Vitaniemi, Marr. to Caisa Tiitinen with children Anna Caisa b 16.10.1814, Johannes b. 1,10,1820 and Eva, b. 28.11.1822.
58062 barnbok of 1804 has a johan Weide b. 1795 in Hanhitaipal No. 1. There was also a Daniel Veide, b. 1799 in Hanhitaipal By.
She seems to have had no other children 1800-1817 in Rautalampi,
roll 58062 , p. 26 has in Hanhitaipal No. 19 , Hämenniemi, a Mäg. Johan Kanninen and Brita Maria ?Hindrikas with children Anna Brita b. 1819, Caisa b. 1820, Maria b. 1823, död 1824, and Maria b. 1825 is this a second marriage or a different Johan?
I wrote a note elsewhere that there were two Weide couples in Pieksamaki/Mikkeli having children about the time she would have been born. They were Micheal Weide and Walborg Hämäläinen and Matts Weide and Hedvig Suroin. See the IGI records from Pieksamaki. Maybe she was born at some intermediate parish in transit toward Rautalampi. Apparent sons of Matts, Johan and Adam, have children in Rautalampi beginning year 1818.. In 1785 in Hetamäki/Pieksämäki "nemt" Michel Weide and Walborg Hämäläinen had an out-of-wedlock son Michel.
Kangasniemi Kopiot shows a 4.4.1758 birth of Mats Weide in Kutemajärvi to Johan Weide and Christ. Nykäin. In the years 1737 - 1756 there is no marriage of these two in Kangasniemi parish records. Christ. Nykäin dies of high fever on 23.6 1771 at age 44. "Enkl. Joh Weide Matts Weide marries En. Ana Abrahmdr Pajuin" 1774. look prior to 1755 for a weding in Pieksamaki.
on 27 Jan 1754 a "wahrg. k." Johan Weide of Kangasniemi married (?Inh.? dr Kristin Nykäin of Nykälä..Pieksamaki kopiot
her birth record found in Pieksämäki kopiot
Pieks. HisKi birth 8.6.1783 28.6.1783 Kylmämäki N:o 60 Vid Hedvig Suroin Hedvig
Kangasniemi 1793-1806 LK p 180 Kutemajärvi Inhyses “dr 1783”
found in Rautalampi RK, 1804-11, Wesamäki 6
in 1832-42 RK, book 3, p 263, Saaristen torp., Wesämäki 13
1843-51 RK, book II, p 306, Saaristen torp., Wesämäki 13
1852-61 RK, book III, p 315, Saaristenmäki torp., Wesämäki 13, til Viitasaari 1855
The birth record (roll 58066) for Anna has mother as Hedvig Väide......Äinasmäki, father Johan Kanninen with Adam Kanninen and Anna Limalain as godparents?
Marriage record (roll 58066) has her as "Pigan Valborg Vejde", of Hanhitaipal, married Dec. 1805 . Why haven't I seen her in RK for that time...was there a RK for that time.was she recently arrived form Pieksmaki or elsewhere?
ans. Pigan Hedvig Veide, b 1783 is in Hanhitaipal 1, p 75 of 1804- RK. her parents are on the same page, lower.
on p 380, Wesämäki 6, Saristenmäki. in 1822-31 RK, book II, birthdate 13jan1812, adm 1826, married
roll 55677 kopiot for Anna's birth has name as Väide. I searched years 1775 to 1818 in the kopiot looking for births with surnames of this sort. Other than the ONE Väide in 1812, no parents of this name were found in Rautalampi, the closest alternative name in Rautalampi is Vaitin, having children years 1801 to 1812 in Wesamäki, Hindickala, Istumaki, Levaniemi etc.
from someplace i have a death date of 24 Jun 1857 ?suggesting a birth year of 1783.
acc. to IGI, Adam Veide was born Hanhitaipal 1804, he was not found; 58062, LK 1804, shows an Adam moving to Rautalampi By living with a Ingxx. Hedvig Puroin (nearby lives a J Anders Kanninen with son Gabriel b. 1791 and daughter Eva b. 1793)
Johan Weide was born 1792 in Hanhitaipal, he was not found in kopiot. Are some records for Rautalampi found in another parish, e.g. Pieksämäki, as is stated on the description of Pieksämäki kopiot? roll 58062 LK 1814-1823 has a Johan Weide in Hanhitaipal, no. 33, Uusi Vitaniemi, Marr. to Caisa Tiitinen with children Anna Caisa b 16.10.1814, Johannes b. 1,10,1820 and Eva, b. 28.11.1822.
58062 barnbok of 1804 has a johan Weide b. 1795 in Hanhitaipal No. 1. There was also a Daniel Veide, b. 1799 in Hanhitaipal By.
She seems to have had no other children 1800-1817 in Rautalampi,
roll 58062 , p. 26 has in Hanhitaipal No. 19 , Hämenniemi, a Mäg. Johan Kanninen and Brita Maria ?Hindrikas with children Anna Brita b. 1819, Caisa b. 1820, Maria b. 1823, död 1824, and Maria b. 1825 is this a second marriage or a different Johan?
I wrote a note elsewhere that there were two Weide couples in Pieksamaki/Mikkeli having children about the time she would have been born. They were Micheal Weide and Walborg Hämäläinen and Matts Weide and Hedvig Suroin. See the IGI records from Pieksamaki. Maybe she was born at some intermediate parish in transit toward Rautalampi. Apparent sons of Matts, Johan and Adam, have children in Rautalampi beginning year 1818.. In 1785 in Hetamäki/Pieksämäki "nemt" Michel Weide and Walborg Hämäläinen had an out-of-wedlock son Michel.
Kangasniemi Kopiot shows a 4.4.1758 birth of Mats Weide in Kutemajärvi to Johan Weide and Christ. Nykäin. In the years 1737 - 1756 there is no marriage of these two in Kangasniemi parish records. Christ. Nykäin dies of high fever on 23.6 1771 at age 44. "Enkl. Joh Weide Matts Weide marries En. Ana Abrahmdr Pajuin" 1774. look prior to 1755 for a weding in Pieksamaki.
on 27 Jan 1754 a "wahrg. k." Johan Weide of Kangasniemi married (?Inh.? dr Kristin Nykäin of Nykälä..Pieksamaki kopiot
her birth record found in Pieksämäki kopiot
Pieks. HisKi birth 8.6.1783 28.6.1783 Kylmämäki N:o 60 Vid Hedvig Suroin Hedvig
Kangasniemi 1793-1806 LK p 180 Kutemajärvi Inhyses “dr 1783”
found in Rautalampi RK, 1804-11, Wesamäki 6
in 1832-42 RK, book 3, p 263, Saaristen torp., Wesämäki 13
1843-51 RK, book II, p 306, Saaristen torp., Wesämäki 13
1852-61 RK, book III, p 315, Saaristenmäki torp., Wesämäki 13, til Viitasaari 1855
Notes for Johan (Spouse 1)
HisKi has birth year as 1784
“dreng” at marr.
Verify that he is the father of Anna Kanninen? is he from Rautalampi? is Hedvik Adeide, b1783, d. 24 Jun 1857 the wife? Hedvig Vaide, see roll 58066 55677 has a marriage 6 Dec1805 of Johan Kanninen and Valborg Vejde in Hanhitipal/Haukitaipal
he and wife move from Rautalampi to Suovanlaks By 1854/55
found in Rautalampi RK, 1804-11, Wesamäki 6, “Bolagsman”
on p 380, Wesämäki 6, Saristenmäki. in 1822-31 RK, book II, a torp. in Saristen torp., wife Hedvig, daughter Anna, son-in-law Matts Mattsson Patelain
An Adam K and Anna Limatain have an Anna in 1815 in Äinasmäki. They were godparents of Anna Kanninen. Who are they? they also, in Saarisuomaki, had Eva 1796, Adam, 1801, Anna Lisa, 1804, dead 1811, Johan 1810 and Henric 1812 (see p 144 of lastenkirja)
Hanhitaipal is the name of a village ca 10 km SW of Rautalampi town; the local area goes by the same name. There is a Viitaniemi very close..Weides lived there
on 1 Nov 1814 a Lisa Huskoin has illegitimate son Johan in Hapamaki, father named is a "Far. aug. ?" Johan Kanninen; Michel Huttuin and Anna Caisa Kauxxx are godparents. If this is the same Johan, it could have bearing on why there were no more children in the family.
in 1832-42 RK, book 3, p 263, Saaristen torp., Wesämäki 13
1843-51 RK, book II, p 306, Saaristen torp., Wesämäki 13
1852-61 RK, book III, p 315, Saaristenmäki torp., Wesämäki 13, til Viitasaari 1855
“dreng” at marr.
Verify that he is the father of Anna Kanninen? is he from Rautalampi? is Hedvik Adeide, b1783, d. 24 Jun 1857 the wife? Hedvig Vaide, see roll 58066 55677 has a marriage 6 Dec1805 of Johan Kanninen and Valborg Vejde in Hanhitipal/Haukitaipal
he and wife move from Rautalampi to Suovanlaks By 1854/55
found in Rautalampi RK, 1804-11, Wesamäki 6, “Bolagsman”
on p 380, Wesämäki 6, Saristenmäki. in 1822-31 RK, book II, a torp. in Saristen torp., wife Hedvig, daughter Anna, son-in-law Matts Mattsson Patelain
An Adam K and Anna Limatain have an Anna in 1815 in Äinasmäki. They were godparents of Anna Kanninen. Who are they? they also, in Saarisuomaki, had Eva 1796, Adam, 1801, Anna Lisa, 1804, dead 1811, Johan 1810 and Henric 1812 (see p 144 of lastenkirja)
Hanhitaipal is the name of a village ca 10 km SW of Rautalampi town; the local area goes by the same name. There is a Viitaniemi very close..Weides lived there
on 1 Nov 1814 a Lisa Huskoin has illegitimate son Johan in Hapamaki, father named is a "Far. aug. ?" Johan Kanninen; Michel Huttuin and Anna Caisa Kauxxx are godparents. If this is the same Johan, it could have bearing on why there were no more children in the family.
in 1832-42 RK, book 3, p 263, Saaristen torp., Wesämäki 13
1843-51 RK, book II, p 306, Saaristen torp., Wesämäki 13
1852-61 RK, book III, p 315, Saaristenmäki torp., Wesämäki 13, til Viitasaari 1855