SavonAsukkaat - Person Sheet
SavonAsukkaat - Person Sheet
NameMaria Sekin Tuomaantytär 
Birthca 1765
Spouses
Birth24 Dec 1764, Westerilä, Rautal., Kuopio
Death26 Dec 1810, Kiesmä Age: 46
Occupationtorpare
FatherSamuel Vesterinen (1731-1788)
MotherChristina Huttunen (~1729->1790)
Unmarried
ChildrenChristina (Illegitimate) (1790-)
Notes for Maria Sekin Tuomaantytär
I don't know what happened to her
oct97..did not find her death in Suonenjoki during 1794-1797
on 20.5.1755 in Toikala, Thomas Sekinen and Prudentia Hännitär had a Maria. This would have a 35 year old woman having an illegitimate child...possible
HisKi has it that her name was Maria Sekin
oct97..did not find her death in Suonenjoki during 1794-1797
on 20.5.1755 in Toikala, Thomas Sekinen and Prudentia Hännitär had a Maria. This would have a 35 year old woman having an illegitimate child...possible
HisKi has it that her name was Maria Sekin
Notes for Thomas (Spouse 1)
I find Beata's name as Fält for the 1794 birth record for Anna Caisa in Westerilä and as Beata Thomsdr. for the 1790 marriage
record No 149, verifies his Dec 24 birth, Dec 30 Christening 1n 1764 in Westerilä. Godparents: Thomas Westerinen and Marg. Leimoin
Orig Rautalampi marriage record for 5 Dec 1790 has him as “Nybagge ungk. Thom. Samuelss. Westerinen of Westerilä and Pigan. Beata Thomsdr of Kiesmä” the banns had been announced on 31. Oct 1790. there is a very slight possibility that she is from Hangasalmi instead.
acc to Bosse Frederickson, he was mistakenly called Tuomas Huttunen/Huttuin (after his mother) ( isn't his Hämäläinen?) in the rippikirja. I can't find this
also 1n 1791 a Lisa V. marries in Hamula
LDS lastenkirjat roll 58062, page 83 has him living in Nättinmäki Torp., Kuuslax, Rautalampi, Kuopio. Again on page 212
death record (55677) has him age 46, death of "stygn":::heart attack
According to Vesteristen Sukukirja, his marriage was with Maria Tuomaantytär on 5 Dec 1790 (this is A MISTAKE... I DOUBT THAT THERE EVER WAS A MARRIAGE...found none back to 1783) and they had at least one daughter...MAYBE, a Stiina born 29 May 1790 oä. with Thomas Westerinen as father and mother Maria Seikin. Maria, born 20.1.1755 in Toikala, was a “Tuomaantytar”, for her father was a Thomas Siekin, who was a godfather for Stiina; Maria’s mother was Prudentia Hännin. Stiina’s Godmothers were Maria Limatain and Carin Matilain.
Contrary to what might be inferred from Westerinen Sukukirja, the next child was a child of Beata’s, not Maria’s, i.e. Anna Lisa Westerinen, born 22 Sep 1794 in Rautalampi and dead 28 Mar 1831, married ? with Henrik Heino (page 34). There the book stops as it only contains children that grew up to adults and only with the name Westerinen. Thus there can be many more children that died as infants or simply are just not found yet.
with record of Thomas there is often a Steffan Hackarin, born 1777, in the household. Who is he? ....ans.:brother-in-law
could not find a record of a marriage prior to 1790 in Rautalampi. Tried SUONENJOKI (its marriage records start only in 1794), PIEKS (years 1784 to 94 are missing in Kopiot).
no Beata found in Pielavesi
in 1785- RK, p 214, Mylly where his brothers are is at bottom of page, a : ???? Westerinen and wife B??? Hämäläin. Also in 1785- RK, p 234, Kiesmä, is Thomas Westerinen and wife Beata Thomasdotter. Thomas Karhu, b 1756, is the bonden there.
The Rautal. LK of ????-, p 214 has him in Kiesmä with his first three children born during 1791-1796. It would appear that the first (born 1791) is from Maria Tuomaantytär
The RK of 1794-99, p 234 for Kiesmä, has him and wife Beata Thomasdr at the homestead of Thomas Karhu. The 1781+ RK , p 176, has a ?”Br. Måg. Thomas Fält” born 1770 living there also is: “?brother’s son-in-law?..could pigan Beata Thomasdr be Thomas Fält’s sister?..she is there during some or all of 1781-94.
record No 149, verifies his Dec 24 birth, Dec 30 Christening 1n 1764 in Westerilä. Godparents: Thomas Westerinen and Marg. Leimoin
Orig Rautalampi marriage record for 5 Dec 1790 has him as “Nybagge ungk. Thom. Samuelss. Westerinen of Westerilä and Pigan. Beata Thomsdr of Kiesmä” the banns had been announced on 31. Oct 1790. there is a very slight possibility that she is from Hangasalmi instead.
acc to Bosse Frederickson, he was mistakenly called Tuomas Huttunen/Huttuin (after his mother) ( isn't his Hämäläinen?) in the rippikirja. I can't find this
also 1n 1791 a Lisa V. marries in Hamula
LDS lastenkirjat roll 58062, page 83 has him living in Nättinmäki Torp., Kuuslax, Rautalampi, Kuopio. Again on page 212
death record (55677) has him age 46, death of "stygn":::heart attack
According to Vesteristen Sukukirja, his marriage was with Maria Tuomaantytär on 5 Dec 1790 (this is A MISTAKE... I DOUBT THAT THERE EVER WAS A MARRIAGE...found none back to 1783) and they had at least one daughter...MAYBE, a Stiina born 29 May 1790 oä. with Thomas Westerinen as father and mother Maria Seikin. Maria, born 20.1.1755 in Toikala, was a “Tuomaantytar”, for her father was a Thomas Siekin, who was a godfather for Stiina; Maria’s mother was Prudentia Hännin. Stiina’s Godmothers were Maria Limatain and Carin Matilain.
Contrary to what might be inferred from Westerinen Sukukirja, the next child was a child of Beata’s, not Maria’s, i.e. Anna Lisa Westerinen, born 22 Sep 1794 in Rautalampi and dead 28 Mar 1831, married ? with Henrik Heino (page 34). There the book stops as it only contains children that grew up to adults and only with the name Westerinen. Thus there can be many more children that died as infants or simply are just not found yet.
with record of Thomas there is often a Steffan Hackarin, born 1777, in the household. Who is he? ....ans.:brother-in-law
could not find a record of a marriage prior to 1790 in Rautalampi. Tried SUONENJOKI (its marriage records start only in 1794), PIEKS (years 1784 to 94 are missing in Kopiot).
no Beata found in Pielavesi
in 1785- RK, p 214, Mylly where his brothers are is at bottom of page, a : ???? Westerinen and wife B??? Hämäläin. Also in 1785- RK, p 234, Kiesmä, is Thomas Westerinen and wife Beata Thomasdotter. Thomas Karhu, b 1756, is the bonden there.
The Rautal. LK of ????-, p 214 has him in Kiesmä with his first three children born during 1791-1796. It would appear that the first (born 1791) is from Maria Tuomaantytär
The RK of 1794-99, p 234 for Kiesmä, has him and wife Beata Thomasdr at the homestead of Thomas Karhu. The 1781+ RK , p 176, has a ?”Br. Måg. Thomas Fält” born 1770 living there also is: “?brother’s son-in-law?..could pigan Beata Thomasdr be Thomas Fält’s sister?..she is there during some or all of 1781-94.