have not found marr. in Pieksämäki back to 1724
found in IGI a poss birth date for Johan is 1712, Pieks., no parents listed; in 1705 a Johan Suroin has a son Carl
Johan is named as a Soldier at Helena's birth

1750-57 RK p 181 Pyhäjärvi (torpare och inhyses), maybe came there in 1752, displacing Måns Häckin
1757-67 RK p 437 Pyhäjärvi torpare & inhyses, b 1712
perhaps Helga Seppoin is his mother
1760-70 LK p 330 Pyhäjärvi torp.
16.3.1773 Pyhäjervi trp.enkl. Joh. Suroin trp.dr. Brita Häckin Häckilä
1771-1780 RK (II) p 324 Pyhäjärvi torpare & inhyses “d”
1783-1790 RK p 081 Häckilä 9 d 5/5 1791

not clearly found her birth in IGI; if she were a mother at 15, then a ch. of 28.8.1744 in Pieksa., father was And., Mother could be Marg. Tolotar
found in IGI as Mondoin, Monnotar, Montoin
1750-57 RK p 181 Pyhäjärvi (torpare och inhyses)
1757-67 RK p 437 Pyhäjärvi torpare & inhyses, b 1716
25.6.1738 Sold: Joh: Surman Marg: Kohvaka (Montonen!)
1760-70 LK p 330 Pyhäjärvi
1771-1780 RK (II) p 324 Pyhäjärvi torpare & inhyses d 177x
oohn “torp. wife age 62 died in Pyhäjärvi 16jul1772

TWO CANDIDATES
1771-1780 RK (II) p 324 Pyhäjärvi torpare & inhyses
1783-1790 RK p 081 Häckilä 9